tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post5568262010948687914..comments2024-03-18T15:16:08.163-04:00Comments on Unam Sanctam Catholicam: Ecumenism from a Protestant ViewBonifacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-59144116998214628482013-09-11T19:36:35.554-04:002013-09-11T19:36:35.554-04:00Ordinarily, I think very highly of this blog, and ...Ordinarily, I think very highly of this blog, and read it often. It is rare that I disagree with the authors about anything substantial, but there it is.<br /><br />Everything you say about a fundamentalist Protestant thinking about the Church is true - if the Church is not who She says She is, than She is a monstrosity, etc. However, Catholics know this is not the truth, and that the Protestants are mistaken. Here is where the potential benefit of the so-called "modern ecumenism" (which I hold is [or at least ought to be] a prolegomena to disputation regarding matters of faith) show up: working with fundamentalist Protestants on mutually shared matters like caring for the sick, the unborn, etc., and being a constant witness of Christ and His Church will DEMONSTRATE that Catholics are not the Whore, and even more, that their Church is urging to do the very things they are doing in common (i.e. pro-life work, or something like that). Who knows, one might even strike up a friendship with one. <br /><br />And thus the pump is primed, as it were, for 'classical ecumenism', by which I mean disputation on matters of Faith. This is the end, and this is the most important, but the preparation cannot be ignored, and is instrumentally speaking even more important - a witness to the Faith is far more powerful coming from a friend than from a semi-anonymous interlocutor.Philosoraptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02935585174963525687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-74905044127618704202013-02-02T23:08:22.582-05:002013-02-02T23:08:22.582-05:00Boniface,
Oh my goodness, you have succinctly and...Boniface,<br /><br />Oh my goodness, you have succinctly and with unerring accuracy captured the very essence of 'orthodox' protestantism and the (futile) ends of postmodern eccumenicalism. Indeed, as a former SDA, then Evangelical Anglican until my conversion to Catholic Christianity in october 2011, I lived, breathed and believed the very grievances pitched against Catholic Christianity re vain idolatry, tyranny and abject slavery to a clerical cast; nay, spiritual abuse pure and simple. Indeed, if Catholic Christianity is wrong, the accusations leveled against it from the Lollards of late 1300's England to Ellen G. White (co-foundress of the Seventh Day Adventist Church) must be correct and naught else. <br /><br />thank God they were wrong. And thank God also for the likes of Tim Staples (himself a former Assemblies of God pastor from Baptist roots) who speak to we (former, in my case) protestants from the word of God itself, banishing the errors that have been perpetuated for nearly 700 years in one form or another. <br /><br />What did St. Paul say of Christianity?...if Christ did indeed not suffer, die and rise from the dead, our faith is nothing but delusion and we are to be pitied above all peoples for our wretched state... <br /><br />Thank God that God DOES exist and that the second person of the godhead became incarnate of the Virgin Mary, lived among us and through his Passion and Paschal mystery, redeemed fallen humanity to our Heavenly Father. <br /><br />Sparticus, you are also spot on.<br /><br />Blessings,<br /><br />Sarah,<br />Australia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-54493316899628054442013-01-30T07:54:12.202-05:002013-01-30T07:54:12.202-05:00Excellent, Boniface. Thank you. The effete ecumeni...Excellent, Boniface. Thank you. The effete ecumenism you describe is anchored in naturalism and so we Catholics may as well pitch-in with the judaised protestants and build the city on a hill (heaven on earth).<br /><br />The link to Balamand is fantastic!!!<br /><br />Kudos.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.com