tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post2862588733924665827..comments2024-03-22T18:43:00.710-04:00Comments on Unam Sanctam Catholicam: Synod II Wrap UpBonifacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-89239965165155875012015-11-01T18:17:50.822-05:002015-11-01T18:17:50.822-05:00As a follow up: I don't mean to put all the bl...As a follow up: I don't mean to put all the blame on JPII. He was a component that lead up to this sure, but there are many more and much larger components to this. It's just pretty irritating when you haven't had a Pope act like a normal Pope for decades upon decades.Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08998296715568420559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-12496585693491117072015-10-31T08:45:00.793-04:002015-10-31T08:45:00.793-04:00Huh...my understanding was that marriages of dispa...Huh...my understanding was that marriages of disparity of cult were sacramental if solemnized in the Church, since the non-Catholic party is also baptized. Or am I confusing disparity of cult with mixed marriage?<br /><br />At any rate the synod was discussing Catholic marriage primarily. Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-26930767642094387162015-10-31T08:42:23.600-04:002015-10-31T08:42:23.600-04:00Dear Brother Boniface. Marriage is not always a sa...Dear Brother Boniface. Marriage is not always a sacrament. A Catholic can marry a woman who has not been Baptised (disparity of cult) and so their marriage is not a sacrament - although it is valid and binding and indissoluble etc<br /><br />The interesting things is that once the woman gets baptised, it becomes a sacramental marriage<br /><br />Other examples of real marriages that are indissouble although not a sacrament existMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-71030884799174276392015-10-30T18:47:52.324-04:002015-10-30T18:47:52.324-04:00As an outsider I cannot help but conclude that Kas...As an outsider I cannot help but conclude that Kasper is possessed. What a vile man.Clear Watershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01067495451323861530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-64587552345653177152015-10-27T20:53:13.935-04:002015-10-27T20:53:13.935-04:00John Paul II was a stepping stone towards this. He...John Paul II was a stepping stone towards this. He adopted the ambiguous wishy washy language of Vatican II and mixed with clear teaching. His external actions also demonstrated this. It boggles the mind to have him forgive his shooter and turn around and let people break the first commandment on consecrated Church ground at Assisi. Or how he reaffirms moral doctrines but practiced ecumenism and interreligious “dialogue” in a way that makes it seem non-Catholics are already saved (even in writing), we just need unity, “St, John the Baptist protect Islam” and all of that. His actions can make it appear as if the Church is evolving towards a more liberal agenda, mixing orthodoxy with scandal and unCatohlic displays, as if it is the natural progression of the Church until we eventually get to a Pope who is fully unorthodox. <br /><br /><br />I am taking this thesis from those liberal bishops who take John Paul II and claim they are “developing” doctrine, quoting his encyclicals, and using the unclear wordiness to twist it (e.g. Archbishop Quinn and his book on the Papacy). They are really trying to evolve and change doctrine, right out the Modernist playbook, by claiming it’s simply a development. It is MUCH harder to do this to Popes who make clear statements, “negative” statements too e.g. the Syllabus or errors.<br /><br />It doesn’t matter if you teach something clearly in a long and wordy encyclical and never enforce it. If you mix your clear teaching with ambiguous junk, coupled with not taking action against heresy, coupled with scandalous actions against Catholic doctrine, coupled with appointing suspect men to the episcopacy… then a liberal can come along and interpret the actions of the past several decades as neo-Modernistic evolution of doctrine, disguised as a “change in discipline.”<br /><br />This is what happens when you are a Pope and your words and actions are not CLEAR, just like John Paul II. It was a mistake to canonization this man indeed.<br />Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08998296715568420559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-30149055691420101832015-10-27T06:39:32.284-04:002015-10-27T06:39:32.284-04:00Well that's a good point. Although I don't...Well that's a good point. Although I don't think I said he was clueless about his agenda, but rather he is clueless about what the church needs. He is not stupid. You are right. He is doing it very intentionally - just like the liberal parish priest does it very intentionally. But those who do these things with the most intentionality are the ones who are the most clueless about the reality of the Church and what she really needs. So stupid, no. Clueless, yes. Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-42878443427922802812015-10-27T05:59:02.909-04:002015-10-27T05:59:02.909-04:00That was great analysis. I agree with everything y...That was great analysis. I agree with everything you pointed out except for one thing in item #14. In 14 you stated, "This homily, more than anything else the pope has said, seems to indicate that he really has no clue. I mean none. It is like if your own local goofy, quirky, liberal parish priest became pope. I pray for Francis as often as I can, but it is increasingly evident that the man is utterly clueless about what is really wrong in the Church and how to best restore her." This man is a highly educated Jesuit. He knows exactly what he is saying. He is not stupid, he is not clueless and he's not just some off the wall eccentric liberal parish priest. He is very calculated. What he is saying in all of his so called "off the cuff" off the wall statements have less to do with how to restore Holy Mother Church and more to do with how to make Her into something new and different from what she has been for the past 2000 years. Something more humanistic and centered on man rather then on God. I tell you the man is not stupid. He knows exactly what he is doing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-76475415942387682392015-10-26T14:28:09.133-04:002015-10-26T14:28:09.133-04:00Simply one of the finest piece of analyses I have ...Simply one of the finest piece of analyses I have ever, in my entire life, read. #5 in particular is so clearly and cogently stated, I almost came to tears. I am sending this to my entire address book, and I thank you for such a marvelous piece is wisdom. God bless you.susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-88007395018813104172015-10-26T10:50:38.962-04:002015-10-26T10:50:38.962-04:00It's possible that Pope Francis is utterly clu...It's possible that Pope Francis is utterly clueness, but doesn't that mean that it is even more possible that he is not, and that you are the one who is?entirelyuselesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12422102436356978880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-51444893726757849922015-10-26T07:20:12.091-04:002015-10-26T07:20:12.091-04:00Who knows. The church moves slowly...but so does t...Who knows. The church moves slowly...but so does the Holy Spirit. "Those Egyptians whom you see today you shall never see again" (Ex. 14:13). Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-37394967304179728682015-10-26T07:18:44.328-04:002015-10-26T07:18:44.328-04:00I can agree with that!I can agree with that!Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-63508667579861040992015-10-26T05:27:28.907-04:002015-10-26T05:27:28.907-04:00Now that the Synod Talk-Fest has been completed an...Now that the Synod Talk-Fest has been completed and the identities of pro or anti the true Faith of the Church have been revealed, my question is this. Where does all this sawing of sawdust leave the average faithful Catholic who discovers that from the bottom to the top the prelates and clergy have absolutely no idea about any substantial.<br /><br />Other than the faithful few, our hierarchs can be bought by anyone<br />offering free publicity, a TV or radio interview or whatever it takes<br />for them to mouth heterodoxy by the barrow load. Having learned that our Archbishop is one such prelate, what can our next course of action as the laity be? Should the Pope decide to "devolve authority" to the Bishops Conferences, we here in Australia might just as well pack up and leave for spiritual pastures greener. For many this could mean the Orthodox Churches, which, whilst despised<br />by the Roman Church, are at least standing firm on their commitment to the Truth as they see it. What a mess! Eirenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-71918817835788715752015-10-26T00:15:02.456-04:002015-10-26T00:15:02.456-04:00Better the weakness and ambiguity of Benedict XVI ...Better the weakness and ambiguity of Benedict XVI than the chaos of Francis! Anyway, great analysis here. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02959404760859071433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-18542144025843861452015-10-25T23:52:55.021-04:002015-10-25T23:52:55.021-04:00Thanks for your thoughts, today's post is very...Thanks for your thoughts, today's post is very insightful, if a bit disheartening and chilling. However, I do have some hope that you are wrong about it taking centuries to undo this damage. I mean, the damage is pretty extensive, but it seems to me this synod is more symptomatic of the current state of the church than damaging by itself.<br /><br />But at any rate, my point is that even though the damage is very extensive, I believe a good papacy might be able to revert a lot of it. Maybe it wouldn't be able to get the many people falling outside the Church back to it, but it could help those who still follow it to follow it right.<br /><br />Then again, maybe I just hope so because I would like to see the splendor of the Church that was so extant in older times in my own lifetime.Alex A. Biralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10362495951914374261noreply@blogger.com