tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post7033999223718264947..comments2024-03-22T18:43:00.710-04:00Comments on Unam Sanctam Catholicam: Schönborn closes 75% of Vienn'a parishesBonifacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-79189719628480044612014-05-26T16:11:00.485-04:002014-05-26T16:11:00.485-04:00Perhaps, giving the Cardinal every benefit of the ...Perhaps, giving the Cardinal every benefit of the doubt, he is doing so in response to the tragedy of his disobedient and dissenting priests.<br /><br />Were I him, I would reduce the number of parishes, promote orthodox pastors, and send the dissenting priests to tend to parishes under the eyes of my pastors and to offer masses w/o homilies, or only pre-approved ones. They would also live much more frugally. <br /><br />Then, when they get sick of it and leave, I bring out my orthodox seminarians and invite those from the FSSP and such, to renew the closed or restricted parishes.<br /><br />It could be done...but?<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-70428757708067615382012-11-12T08:08:00.895-05:002012-11-12T08:08:00.895-05:00Schönborn is destroying the Church in Vienna...Schönborn is destroying the Church in Vienna...SemperIdemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-34664743184525105332012-10-25T00:44:08.559-04:002012-10-25T00:44:08.559-04:00Perhaps some of this is just facing the fact that ...Perhaps some of this is just facing the fact that unfortunately the young generation in Europe doesn't seem to be continuing in the faith and the Bishop is recognizing this and being forced to consolidate to save money. I can say when I have gone to mass in Europe in places like Spain and Italy in many of the neighborhood parishes it is a few very old people, my wife and I, and maybe one other young couple and that is it (St Peter's Basicila in Rome exempted as that was full of everyone as was St Mark's in Venice on Palm Sunday)haskovechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14535758827874653627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-36511245102670603702012-10-24T09:11:59.629-04:002012-10-24T09:11:59.629-04:00A parish that has multiple Churches in which Masse...A parish that has multiple Churches in which Masses are regularly, i.e., every Sunday, even week days as well, is not thereby a parish cluster.<br /><br />A parish cluster is a union of several parishes, each of which is its own juridic person, even if they share the same pastor, and even if they share some central administration. <br /><br />I am a priest of the diocese of Vienna. The proposed plan in the diocese does involve closing, or perhaps more accurately, merging parishes (if the larger, combined parish juridically takes on all responsibilities of the former parishes, it seems more accurate to describe the parishes as being merged into one bigger parish rather than being simply closed.) But it does not involve ceasing to celebrate Mass in those Churches. They may no longer be canonically <i>the parish Church</i>, but Mass would still be regularly said in many of those Churches.<br /><br />That said, there will surely be some smaller Churches in which Mass is no longer said, or not said as frequently. If that were not the case, the merging would do little to alleviate a "priest shortage", except perhaps inasmuch as there are many priests who aren't suited to be pastors in full charge of a parish, but only assistant pastors.<br /><br />There are definitely some advantages to the plan, but I'm not convinced it's the best way to deal with the situation.Fr. Josephhttp://www.pathsoflove.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-38178787002616088242012-10-23T12:37:17.373-04:002012-10-23T12:37:17.373-04:00Well, that would be a cluster. He does not say he ...Well, that would be a cluster. He does not say he is clustering parishes, but closing them.Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-11147309082675170012012-10-23T12:22:35.471-04:002012-10-23T12:22:35.471-04:00I saw this as well, but I'm not sure it necess...I saw this as well, but I'm not sure it <i>necessarily</i> connotes the actual closure of buildings. The parish is an administrative and juridic division, not just a church building. It's entirely possible that some of these new parishes will maintain the use of multiple structures.<br /><br />Of course, it's also entirely possible that it will be a complete train wreck. This guy may be the most overrated individual in the College of Cardinals.Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01905201479928703850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-9040162256313382592012-10-23T10:00:21.117-04:002012-10-23T10:00:21.117-04:00Lord, when will this current generation of destruc...Lord, when will this current generation of destructive bishops and priest die off?Steve "scotju" Daltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17864544146213840928noreply@blogger.com