tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post7299212896559009743..comments2024-03-22T18:43:00.710-04:00Comments on Unam Sanctam Catholicam: Protestant & Catholic LyricsBonifacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-16412590064177692712009-01-26T22:31:00.000-05:002009-01-26T22:31:00.000-05:00Rob I am glad you jumped in here. I think you are ...Rob I am glad you jumped in here. I think you are being a little too critical of David Haas and Marty Haugen. Only the father can know what is on their hearts. I don't think it is fair to say that they are self worshiping in anyway. What you are saying the lyrics are explaining is simply your opinion of the lyrics. I take them in a different way. Not self worshiping of humans at all. In anthem, the we is the church. We are called and chosen we are called to be Christ to one another. There is nothing false in this statement. It is supposed to be in my opinion uplifting to the church and remind us all of our baptismal calling. Thats the way I take it. And Gather Us In does say "give us a heart so meek and so lowly." Thats pretty humble there. You should check out some of the guys at spirit and song. They are great humble and holy people. And no they are not humanistic. Especially Matt Maher. I know him personally and he is a great guy. <BR/><BR/>God bless you<BR/><BR/>TimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-69217802686396327152008-03-03T23:48:00.000-05:002008-03-03T23:48:00.000-05:00Blessings to you!Robert Feduccia here ...general m...Blessings to you!<BR/><BR/>Robert Feduccia here ...general manager of Spirit & Song. My brother, I actually agree with you on the content of songs. But have you looked through the songs in the Spirit & Song 2 songbook. The songs you hail are in that book. The songs you criticize are not. I assure you the Spirit & Song composers: Matt Maher, Tom Booth, Steve Angrisano, Josh Blakesley, etc. are very critical of humanistic lyrics. They want their songs to be Christocentric and clearly articulate salvation through Jesus Christ and want to exalt Him and Him alone.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>Robertrobert feduciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01320401236062601513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-79633285170349064462007-12-07T12:41:00.000-05:002007-12-07T12:41:00.000-05:00haha, that's funny. I've never thought of it quit...haha, that's funny. I've never thought of it quite that way!Mara Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01296656033652896228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-21962908043976750242007-12-06T17:08:00.000-05:002007-12-06T17:08:00.000-05:00I heartily agree with your analysis. My wife (who ...I heartily agree with your analysis. My wife (who is a Protestant) loves Evangelical musicians such the ones you mentioned, plus Chris Tomlin and many others.<BR/><BR/>I always tell her that I like the lyrics to these songs, but that they would be better in Latin and chanted. I usually get a "Gah!" from that. (Note: you can tell you've become a traditionalist, if you regularly use the phrase "This would be better in Latin and chanted")<BR/><BR/>It's the profane music of these artists that I don't like. The use of guitars, violins, drums, solos, hooks, "Southern gospel choirs" and country western twang is very jarring to me. I don't dislike any of those things, but there's a time and place for everything under the sun, and it's not in the sanctuary. Throw a concert or something - just keep it out of my church!<BR/><BR/>Oh, my pet peeve, and the modern Catholic songbooks are full of it: hymns where the congregation speaks in the voice of God in first person... ("Lord of the Dance" comes to mind, although its problems are manifold) Even worse, sometimes, the identity of the speaker alternates in the same song. *shivers*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-30446380932945455752007-12-06T16:13:00.000-05:002007-12-06T16:13:00.000-05:00Andrew-I am not against modern music, just modern ...Andrew-<BR/><BR/>I am not against modern music, just modern music used in the liturgy. And not even modern music in the liturgy, but modern "contemporary" music used in the liturgy. If there were any modern artists writing chants and pieces in Latin using the organ or just for acapella, I would love it.Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-16748338263225011152007-12-06T16:09:00.000-05:002007-12-06T16:09:00.000-05:00great post, and very accurate... really speaks to ...great post, and very accurate... really speaks to me, since my campus seems to think it appropriate to play an electric blues version of "we shall overcome" during mass.<BR/><BR/>But why is it that you are against any modern music? You mean "modern" almost like a ginre title? As in modern being rock, blues, pop music, etc. Or do you mean you're completely against any music being used in the liturgy if it was composed after a certain date?<BR/><BR/>Personally, i think there's nothing wrong with new music being composed for mass. There's lots of beautiful composers out there, who would write / have written beautiful setting for mass, psalms, etc. As long as the new compositions are thoroughly Catholic in every way, and rightly connect us all to our historic traditions, then we should embrace them as one part of the solution to this lunacy.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11909638162491839868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-73061127886767238302007-12-06T14:37:00.000-05:002007-12-06T14:37:00.000-05:00Gather Us In Here in this place, a bad song is sta...Gather Us In <BR/><BR/><BR/>Here in this place, a bad song is starting,<BR/>Now will the altar turn into a stage.<BR/>All that is holy is slowly departing,<BR/>Making a way for the coming New Age.<BR/><BR/>Gather us in, though we are like captives.<BR/>But to miss Mass on Sunday, that would be wrong.<BR/>But Lord hear our plea, regarding M. Haugen:<BR/>Give him the courage to put down that bong.<BR/><BR/>Dear Father Smith make a beeline procession,<BR/>Run if you have to, make it real terse.<BR/>If you can start this Mass very quickly,<BR/>Maybe we'll only have to sing but one verse.<BR/><BR/>O Dear Lord Jesus, You are the Savior<BR/>We've promised to follow, whatever the cost.<BR/>But we didn't know this song had been written:<BR/>Would you terribly mind if we came off our cross?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-80555240052325902242007-12-06T14:36:00.000-05:002007-12-06T14:36:00.000-05:00www.closedcafeteria.blogspot.com/2007/07/gather-us...www.closedcafeteria.blogspot.com/2007/07/gather-us-in-parody.html<BR/><BR/>And to "Gather Us In"<BR/>References to God (by name): 0<BR/>Inferences to God (By pronoun): 5<BR/>References to Us/We/Our/Etc: 31<BR/><BR/>and you can always join.... :<BR/>http://www.mgilleland.com/music/moratorium.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com