tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post8084681378521205957..comments2024-03-22T18:43:00.710-04:00Comments on Unam Sanctam Catholicam: Fasting from the EucharistBonifacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-39946095726981042682021-05-12T22:16:57.815-04:002021-05-12T22:16:57.815-04:00Confession and fast after Midnight for Holy Commun...Confession and fast after Midnight for Holy Communion.<br />God bless -AndrewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-55407715918782210532021-04-09T07:02:43.517-04:002021-04-09T07:02:43.517-04:00I think your path is pretty clear. Keep it up and,...I think your path is pretty clear. Keep it up and, like Kwasniewski who's on the same path, you'll be out of the Church rubbing should with the Orthodox. What a pity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-9215444369910020912021-02-05T12:33:50.951-05:002021-02-05T12:33:50.951-05:00@Anonymous
Lol, for your information, I have been...@Anonymous<br /><br />Lol, for your information, I have been receiving Holy Communion ever week. <br /><br />"I sincerely wish I hadn't come to this site"<br /><br />K. byeBonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-3760046062506172142021-02-05T00:09:38.444-05:002021-02-05T00:09:38.444-05:00Okay, I read more. You have sources that you cite....Okay, I read more. You have sources that you cite. I don't regard them as dispositive. Why? Because of this question: <br /><br />"How many of you ask your confessor's advice before receiving daily Communion?"<br /><br />Have *you* asked your confessor's advice about your own abstention from Holy Communion? Maybe it's not my business to ask, but the question logically follows from your own writing on the subject. Unless I missed it, I don't see where you mention it. Maybe I missed it. <br /><br />Who are we to say whether it takes you longer than a week to prepare for Holy Communion? I don't know who we are, but you're sharing the information with us. Your confessor might disagree. <br /><br />I sincerely wish I hadn't come to this site and read this post. It saddens me deeply. I wish you all best wishes, specifically that you come to a point where you can receive the Blessed Sacrament worthily more often than what you're saying it takes you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-90178752453729060932021-02-04T23:53:41.232-05:002021-02-04T23:53:41.232-05:00From the original post last year:
" The ext...From the original post last year: <br /><br />" The extra work made it more meaningful. And I started thinking there really is something to the argument that less communions can be more beneficial. Of course I've always known that it was superior to receive fewer communions better prepared than more communions less prepared, but until this present darkness I had no experiential knowledge of the fact."<br /><br />I'm going to continue my line of criticism from last year about the subjective nature of all of this. Who made the evaluation that you were better prepared? You did. It doesn't sound like a priest or confessor did. The last sentence in the paragraph mentions "experiential knowledge." Your perception is that this preparation made this reception of Holy Communion more grace-filled. That's a fallible perception. <br /><br />I mean, the greatest experiences I've had in Confession involved confessing especially weighty sins after a long "fast" from Confession. Did I prepare more for those Confessions? Yes, I did. Were they more meaningful? Yes. Should I confess less frequently in order to make my Confessions more meaningful, and prepare more? No, I should not. The conclusion doesn't follow. <br /><br />Again, please ask your confessor whether you should do this. This is not an area where you should just go with your private observations, or Kwasniewski's. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-14530932503179380432021-01-14T18:14:25.278-05:002021-01-14T18:14:25.278-05:00Not knowing "1st anon here" I cannot con...Not knowing "1st anon here" I cannot conclude as to his or her reported experience, or choice of "desperate,", and the meaning associated with them in personal faith life or journey. I would say, as for my now apparently being known as Anon 4:31, that respectfully, there is a fundamental link between the Sacraments of Penance and Eucharist, and the frequency thereof (as alluded to by "1st anon here"). (Catechism 1385; St John Paul II, Ecclesia de Eucharistia).<br />I think that may be also what Boniface refers to when commenting upon this poster's post: Pius X's mention, in Sacra Tridentina Synodus (following Trent's Decretum), of the Eucharistic effect; i.e. not only encouraging frequent reception to wash away the little (venial) faults that occur daily, but to strengthen against further more grievous faults. Whatever the dispensations pertaining to situation, whether internally or externally imposed, I would not encourage waiting for Viaticum.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-12925306976303681542021-01-07T12:28:44.394-05:002021-01-07T12:28:44.394-05:00@anon-
Then it's not for you@anon-<br /><br />Then it's not for youBonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-79965613552935797712021-01-07T12:06:39.946-05:002021-01-07T12:06:39.946-05:00Abstaining? I old and for a time did not lead a g...Abstaining? I old and for a time did not lead a good Catholic life. I feel almost desperate at times for communion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-91171707499690538572021-01-05T00:41:06.624-05:002021-01-05T00:41:06.624-05:00What preparations should be done for disposing one...What preparations should be done for disposing one to receive Holy Communion? I am a mother of three children, 5 and under, and attend Mass alone with them. I never feel properly prepared due to constant distraction during Mass.Marissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734624055833603768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-71434786013785809222021-01-03T00:32:45.690-05:002021-01-03T00:32:45.690-05:001st anon here adding, this situation also varies r...1st anon here adding, this situation also varies region to region, and i've seen both extremes. in North America seems many people may do communion too often, apparently out of shame of being seen as the few not communicating; rather than legit having a state of grace and proper disposition every week. this seems the case specially considering how little confession time there tends to be in some parishes, and yet how many seem to be in a state of grace every week in the same parishes. in Latin America it's the opposite problem, everyone feels ashamed of both confession and seeming way too holy by communicating (it is a more gossipy low trust culture, while North Americans can trust more, too much sometimes), so instead there is way too much fasting; and few do communicate when they better try to be confessed, disposed, and do so. a lot of Latin Americans don't even communicate on Christmas or Easter, or (worse) think that the spiritual communion is just the same, because their Jesuit priest said so (said Jesuit priest in North America might instead downplay confession and disposition and invite you to communicate every week if you feel okay with it, so as to get continually "saved" like a Prot). in short, in North America too few people remain on the pews due to improper disposition, thus communicating becoming more universal than even kneeling during the canon; in Latin America, way too many remain seated and improperly disposed, the line not taking more than 5 minutes even in cathedrals... and sadly, Latin Americans are also starting to forget kneeling too...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-29409876186318177142021-01-02T14:16:54.315-05:002021-01-02T14:16:54.315-05:00I started occasionally abstaining intentionally fo...I started occasionally abstaining intentionally for a reason I think is very, very important for parents. We need to set an example to children--especially teen and young adult children--that there is nothing out of the ordinary about abstaining; that if someone abstains, no reason needs to be given about why, nor is it anyone else's business why. Heaven forbid a teen needs to go to Confession first, but feels embarrassed, and receives Communion anyways out of concern that not receiving would signal to his or her family that he has done something sinful. That should never be a factor, and if parents make sure through their example that abstaining occasionally is a completely normal thing to do for a variety of reasons, that will do a lot to prevent temptation for unworthy communions. <br /><br />A wonderful effect I have found is that it removes stress for me. Everyone has days where they have trouble focusing at Mass, or just don't feel disposed even if state of grace isn't an issue. It is very helpful in these situations to know that there is nothing wrong with occasionally abstaining, and it there is no need to worry about it. "Frequent' communion doesn't mean "Communion every time." <br /><br />Thank you for this post--I think it is good that people realize that one can go to Mass, offer it fruitfully and pray, and not have to receive Holy Communion every time.EmilyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01114016974845000213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-42803028192926483602021-01-02T12:51:10.816-05:002021-01-02T12:51:10.816-05:00
We know that in past centuries, it was not common...<br />We know that in past centuries, it was not common to receive Holy Communion daily and there were still many Saints from those times. But things change over centuries and daily Mass and Communion became available for clergy and laity alike. There has been only a small percentage of the faithful who have availed themselves even so. But at the present time those who have the opportunity to receive Our Lord daily or weekly should do so! Along with confession of course. This great gift can be taken from us at any time now as we have seen. MANY have been denied for 10 months and some have allowed themselves to live in such fear that they do not come to Our Lord even when they can. We need the sacraments in this darkening world so as to have the strength for this great spiritual battle. Let us not miss any opportunity for them at this time.M. Prodigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05598092468839468735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-41212954607329293712021-01-02T09:01:07.663-05:002021-01-02T09:01:07.663-05:00@Anon 4:31,
I will grant that, at least in the do...@Anon 4:31,<br /><br />I will grant that, at least in the documents of Pius X. The fact is though, there has been great variation over the years. If the pre-1900 church favored much more infrequent communion, there were good reasons, with some excesses; if the post-1900 church favors daily communion, I'm sure the same is true. Even if that is the intention of the documents, it must be balanced against what is the most pressing danger *today*, which I think is communion that is <i>too</i> routine. I would never want to deprive myself of Holy Communion for longer than a month, and probably not even that long regularly. I was talking to an Eastern friend and he was telling me that in some of their rites it is common for people to not receive Communion throughout the entirety of Lent, using Lent as a preparatory period for the Easter Communion. I guess my only point is that our tradition definitely sees a place for this sort of thing.Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-66334849817941643062021-01-02T04:31:06.949-05:002021-01-02T04:31:06.949-05:00Proper disposition is indeed what is exhorted; how...Proper disposition is indeed what is exhorted; however the suggestion perhaps is between Friday and Sunday? or Sunday to Sunday? Or occasion? Each of these may be ascertained from the quoted examples. There are other inquiries, which could be addressed insofar as historical realities of Eucharistic frequency is concerned.<br />I get your premise, but the examples provided in your follow-up explanation seem to be more narrow in their application than your intended explanation. <br /><br />Best prayers and wishes in the New YearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-31749445752698389302021-01-01T20:18:49.316-05:002021-01-01T20:18:49.316-05:00i'd argue Saint Pius X meant the Holy Table sp...i'd argue Saint Pius X meant the Holy Table specifically when referring to communicating.<br /><br />Otherwise I agree with the whole post. There is a difference between going as often as you feel properly disposed to, and offering the fasting that results; and just fasting for the sake of feeling more vainly full later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com