tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post8207956684421693923..comments2024-03-22T18:43:00.710-04:00Comments on Unam Sanctam Catholicam: What's Mass all about?Bonifacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10672810254075072214noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-23594625959861330182010-12-30T16:12:51.768-05:002010-12-30T16:12:51.768-05:00Sure, I've personally heard one (pseudo)liturg...Sure, I've personally heard one (pseudo)liturgist talking about, that he can't understand the sense of receiving a spiritual communion ('what does that mean'). Just another of many contradictions that the 'new theology' brings.Crkveni dokumentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00736763052034653654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-60895697856753273072010-02-10T13:25:18.920-05:002010-02-10T13:25:18.920-05:00I mentioned this to my brother just a few days ago...I mentioned this to my brother just a few days ago. He confused the obligation to go to Mass every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation with the precept to receive Communion at least once a year. <br />Also, this misunderstanding of Mass means that people who haven't managed to get to Confession before Sunday Mass often feel pressurised or judged if they don't communicate, because it's seen almost as obligatory as attendance at Mass itself.spraffmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651988079265709782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-55636981935420022562010-02-10T03:43:28.680-05:002010-02-10T03:43:28.680-05:00This is similar to what I talked about in the past...This is similar to what I talked about in the past regarding people believing in the Real Presence but not the Real Sacrifice. I meet people all the time who do not know the Mass is actually a Sacrifice. <br /><br />There are many reasons for this ignorance. One reason is the new Mass is not as good at defending against these kinds of errors as other forms and rites of Mass. The New Mass is less explicit about sacrifice and probably 90% of the time is offered in a way using forms and options that look less like the priest is offering a sacrifice (like the priest facing the people and vernacular just to name a few).Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08998296715568420559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-38470299080159718612010-02-09T17:40:49.490-05:002010-02-09T17:40:49.490-05:00I teach some Bible studies in our diocese and abou...I teach some Bible studies in our diocese and about 90% of the people<br />go to the newly-written Mass. One day when I mentioned that there may be valid reasons why a Catholic chooses not to receive Holy Communion during a Mass,<br />that comment was met with incomprehension, to say the least. So I worked that idea into other classes, and it created the same confusion. I got the sense that they all felt that Mass is a "service" offered to them by the local parish for the purpose of "full participation in a community act" which includes receving Holy Communion. <br /><br /> In addition, many felt that they got "more of Jesus" or "all of Jesus" when they received in "both kinds." (With the exception of those who normally attend a traditional Mass.) <br /><br />You are right, many seem to place the purpose of the Mass in the act of receiving. From what I observe, their concept of sacrifice and of The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is vague. They seem to know only what they've picked up by themselves as Catholics in attendance, observing what's going on. We are sorely in need of good catechesis.<br /><br />Thank you for your observations here.Krishttp://thesprucetunnel.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-20487517145523933902010-02-09T17:07:55.766-05:002010-02-09T17:07:55.766-05:00I have no such concrete examples, I'm afraid, ...I have no such concrete examples, I'm afraid, but I've long had the impression that this is the way in which many view the Mass.<br /><br />The almost universal reception of Communion at Mass - I mean barely anyone present at a Mass ever abstains from receiving - may be related to this way of thinking about the Mass, in addition, of course, to the more decisive factor of the loss of the sense of sin, and the abandonment of Penance.Anselmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6086833995941525990.post-48991915029189975032010-02-09T11:32:20.818-05:002010-02-09T11:32:20.818-05:00I asked a group of high school students about this...I asked a group of high school students about this recently. My line of questioning was basically:<br /><br />Why do you go to Mass every Sunday? Let's imagine you couldn't receive Holy Communion that day: why are you still obliged to go to Mass? Let's imagine you and the priest were the only ones there... no, let's imagine that no one else could show up, and it was just the priest: why would he still say Mass?<br /><br />I think it caught most of them off guard that the Mass wasn't, in the end, about RECEIVING Holy Communion, but about GIVING God the adoration and thanksgiving He is due (as well as its expiative and supplicative ends).<br /><br />I don't know if I've ever had a person-to-person talk with someone about this, though.Jeffrey Pinyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08758581112217835988noreply@blogger.com